a concept sketch in Coral Painter (first time used this program) using the Palette knife tool, not finished but i decided i need i need to actually start crafting the model now in 3DSMAX, with the handy references of a fair part of a sketchbook to help guide me, combined with what i have learnt these past few weeks of practice im hoping to get some images now onto the website...another job, glad to be busy again and in an enviroment where i can get my head down and get on with it.